[Podcast]Diphtheria-tetanus-whole-cell-pertussis vaccine: Is it true that it is increasing female infant mortality in Africa?
An intro to re overall health effects of vaccines in Guinea-Bissau. A "Sensibly curious about vaccines" podcast with Christine Stabell Benn & Tracy Beth Høeg
I’m very excited to post the second podcast (apple, youtube) in a series of podcasts where Christine Stabell Benn, MD, PhD and I take a deep dive into differences in public health approaches in the US vs. Scandinavia along with what evidence is being generated & used to make decisions, with a special focus on vaccines. The link to our first podcast is here on Sensible Medicine.
One of the places you can hear our second podcast here:
While I am a more general physician epidemiologist, Christine has researched vaccines for decades with Bandim Health and is currently Professor of Global Health at the University of Southern Denmark. It was my great pleasure to discuss with her the work she has been doing studying vaccines in Guinea Bissau, Africa.
We specifically discuss the claims made by Robert F Kennedy Jr on Joe Rogan about her group’s research into the whole cell Diphtheria Tetanus Pertussis vaccine and the signal of increased infant mortality, especially seen in girls, following this vaccination. Many of the links to the studies we discuss can be found in the article below, written by Christine.
I mentioned in the podcast I would post what she had written on LinkedIn on my substack as a supplement to the audio file. Here is the link to the LinkedIn post if you would rather read it in its original form. Or you can simply scroll down.
Please also see her TEDx Talk from 2018 on her research into non-specific effects of vaccines.
On Robert F Kennedy Jr's comments on our studies of diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis vaccine
Christine Stabell Benn
Professor, Global Health @SDU. Studying the overall health effects of vaccines in Guinea-Bissau and Denmark, discovering that they have important non-specific effects #NSEvac
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July 18, 2023
Many people have alerted me to the fact that Robert F Kennedy Jr has been mentioning our group’s studies on the whole-cell diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTP) vaccine used in Africa. They asked me if the story is true. Allow me to present the story from our perspective. In brief, some details are wrong, but the overall message - that we discovered a serious safety signal in relation to DTP vaccine for females - is correct.
Our research group, the Bandim Health Project (BHP), was established in 1978. It is not a government group. Apart from the last five years, where we have received a bit of core funding from our new “host”, the Danish state University of Southern Denmark, we are only funded by grants for specific research projects. We apply for these grants from governmental and private foundations. The funders have no role in the studies. Hence, we are an independent research group with no conflicts of interest.
The BHP runs a field station in Guinea-Bissau in Africa. Here, child mortality has historically been extremely high, almost exclusively due to infectious diseases. In the 1980s, the BHP founder, Prof. Peter Aaby, discovered that measles vaccine reduced child mortality much more than explained by prevention of measles infection. It appeared that measles vaccine had beneficial “non-specific effects” (NSEs), strengthening the immune system, and lowering the risk of dying from infections in general.
This led to an investigation of all the childhood vaccines. Unknown to most people, the childhood vaccines were never investigated for their effects on other infections, just the target infections(s). We discovered that all the vaccines we studied had NSEs.
A pattern emerged. All the live vaccines we studied had beneficial NSEs. However, for DTP vaccine, a non-live vaccine, we consistently found the vaccine to be associated with negative NSEs, particularly for girls. Hence, despite being protected against three deadly diseases, girls who received DTP vaccine had higher risk of dying than girls, who did not receive DTP vaccine, and DTP-vaccinated girls had higher risk of dying than DTP-vaccinated boys, even though the opposite was the case after live vaccines.
We went to WHO with this worrying safety signal. In the first place, WHO commissioned some other sites to test our findings. These studies came out with extremely positive effects of DTP vaccine. However, they had used a flawed methodology, something that was acknowledged in 2006, and led WHO to declare that they would "keep a watch on the evidence of non-specific effects of vaccination".
Studies showing non-specific effects of vaccines continued to accumulate and in 2013, WHO’s Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization (SAGE) established a working group on the non-specific effects of vaccines and conducted a review of the NSEs of the live measles and BCG vaccines and the non-live DTP vaccine. The review was published in BMJ in 2016. A total of 10 DTP studies were included in the analysis. While the two live vaccines were observed to reduce overall mortality much more than explained by the prevention of the target diseases, it was opposite for DTP vaccine, for which the reviewers concluded that “Receipt of DTP (almost always with oral polio vaccine) was associated possible increase in all cause mortality on average (relative risk 1.38, 0.92 to 2.08) from 10 studies at high risk of bias; this effect seemed stronger in girls than in boys”. Receiving measles vaccine or BCG vaccine with of after DTP vaccine was associated with lower mortality than having DTP as the most recent vaccine. The reviewers recommended that the evidence “does indicate a need for randomised trials to examine the positioning of DTP in the vaccine schedule”.
At their meeting in April 2014, WHO’s SAGE tasked the committee IVIR-AC with defining the research questions to be studied in relation to NSEs. However, no studies in relation to DTP have apparently been planned, now almost 10 years after the meeting.
After the WHO review, we went back to the old records. BHP had introduced DTP vaccine in the community in the 1980s, believing it to be beneficial. However, when we got the data entered and analysed, we found further confirmation of negative NSEs of DTP vaccine. The best data was in the 3-5-month-old children, because in this age group, since DTP vaccine was given at 3-monthly weighing sessions, it was completely random (dependent on the birth date) if a child was vaccinated or not.
In this “natural experiment” covering data from 1981-83, children, who received DTP vaccine had 5 times higher mortality than children who had not yet received DTP vaccine. This was more pronounced for females (10 times higher) than for males, but the result did not reach significance. This is presumably the study that Robert F Kennedy Jr is referring to.
In subsequent studies of older children in the same period, we found similar results, and in 2018 we published a combined analysis of the three studies conducted during the introduction.
The analysis showed that the introduction of DTP vaccine in Guinea-Bissau was associated with a 2-fold increase in overall mortality. In girls, the estimate was a 2.60 (95% CI=1.57–4.32)-fold increase in mortality. Noteworthy, these studies were published after the WHO review. Had they been included in the WHO review, the negative effect of DTP vaccine would have been stronger.
In 2020, we reviewed all the data, in connection with a major review of the non-specific effects. Including all the studies with prospective follow-up, also the new studies, for a total of 17 studies, being DTP vaccinated vs. not being DTP vaccinated was associated with 2.07 (95% CI=1.60-2.67)-fold higher mortality. The estimate was 2.54 (1.68-3.86) in females. Among DTP-vaccinated children, females had almost 50% higher mortality than males (1.47 (1.18-1.84)). A dose-response has been observed, with the female-male mortality ratio increasing with each additional dose of DTP vaccine.
DTP is not the only vaccine that is associated with increased overall female mortality. The same pattern has been seen for now six non-live vaccines (See the table below). Importantly, the opposite pattern is seen for live vaccines. They are associated with beneficial NSEs and decreased overall mortality, particularly for females. No bias can explain why only non-live vaccines should be negative for females.
Importantly, since the data shows that the negative effect is abrogate when a live vaccine is given, it should be possible to design vaccination programs that include the important non-live vaccines that protect against deadly diseases, but just make sure that children spend as much time as possible with a ”live-vaccine-last”.
In conclusion, Robert F Kennedy Jr is not correct that we were sent out by the Danish government to study the effect of DTP vaccine. Bill Gates was not involved. We are independent researchers, who were driven by a first discovery that measles vaccine had very beneficial NSEs.
One of our DTP studies was a recent analysis of the "natural experiment" that took place when DTP vaccine was introduced in Guinea-Bissau 30 years ago. It showed that receiving DTP vaccine vs. not yet receiving DTP vaccine was associated with 5-fold significantly higher mortality. It was 10-fold higher for females, but it was not independently significant for girls.
However, this is just one of many studies of DTP vaccine that all point in this direction. Most of them are from Guinea-Bissau, but the findings have been the same in e.g., Benin, India and Malawi.
The conclusion is very clear: The whole-cell DTP vaccine used in low-income countries is associated with increased mortality for females. The observation has not been contradicted by good prospective studies. What remains unclear is why WHO does not act. Therefore, we welcome that Robert F Kennedy Jr shares the story about DTP vaccine, even though he got some details wrong.
Below follows a list of some of the studies showing negative non-specific effects of DTP vaccine in females. No good study of DTP given without BCG and with prospective follow-up has contradicted the findings.
Interested in knowing more?
A good layman article telling the story about NSEs
References:
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Aaby P, et al. Differences in female-male mortality after high-titre measles vaccine and association with subsequent vaccination with diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis and inactivated poliovirus: re-analysis of West African studies. Lancet 2003;361:2183–8.
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Thank you for sharing your research. Academia regards dispassionate presentation of data. The hard truth is that the WHO ignores the death signal of the DTP. *Girls die every year from this vaccine.* The WHO knows it and continues to promote it. It’s not a blind eye, it’s not inaction, it is full promotion. We don’t need to understand WHY the WHO does this, only that it does. The WHO will promote a vaccine with full knowledge of a positive and consistent death signal.
I’m not a researcher. I’m a mother. Each data point is a human life, in this case a beloved daughter. It is a family that brings their child to the doctor because they love and want the best for their little girl. Let’s recognize the family grief and life long heartache of a child death. These are preventable and unnecessary deaths. There is a problem if this does not weigh heavily on your heart or conscious. Does the death of children urge us to speak out against the WHO? When does ‘collect more data’ become ‘collect more names of daughters killed by DTP’? Is it uncomfortable to use more human terms for research data? My comments are directed to readers in general and not the author specifically. Research is vital but it’s relevance is understood when applied with the humanity of the real world. In the very end, we are more than data points and our response should reflect that.
Such a fascinating conversation, I don’t know where to start.
A family in my community has a son with very severe “autism” (brain injury) from DTP vaccine and this was recognized by our government and their Doctors. The family receives compensation. For a brief time after the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Act, there wasn’t the denial. At 2 months old, DTP caused such severe seizures they had to put him in a coma to stop them. He survived and is an adult now, but functioning as a 1 yr old. What happens to these kids in the third world? I can’t imagine they get the care they need.
I mention this because- it’s not just about mortality. And also because, I live in a very small town. Two traffic lights. Not a population of a million. I didn’t know about this family until I became politically active. How many Hannah Pollings are there hiding in the world?
So the question to Christine in regards to how she responds to whether or not to vaccinate is, wouldn’t you have to have an accurate risk to benefit profile? Wouldn’t the fact that much fewer children die of infectious diseases in the first world tip the scale toward a more conservative approach until the true adverse event/ risk profile can be known? What about the sky rocketing rates of all the chronic health conditions listed on vaccine inserts? And the ones that aren’t, such as cancer, because they don’t study them(?)
3). Something I think you’ll find interesting related to the question about if CoVid vaccine lowers immunity to other diseases:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7044e1.htm
Because of the study design, which looked at all patients hospitalized with any respiratory illness, you can get the data to do your own math to answer this question. At least that’s what I did because I had that question at the time. Anyway, it was 97% vaccinated during Delta. Once they eliminated pretty much everyone to meet the study design requirements, they were left with 5,077 total patients hospitalized with other respiratory diseases. 4,907 who were vaccinated and 170 who not. But the super crazy thing was that 94% who had CoVid were vaccinated with no prior infection and about 6% were not vaccinated with prior infection (306 vaxxed and 19 non vaxxed). These numbers are specifically for the Delta time period. It’s so crazy, I would love for either of you to look at it to see if I’m correct. I’m not trying to be a scientist. I’m just trying to use my common sense to survive because I CDCeit.